ufo2002
11-08 04:33 PM
Let me ask you the opposite question : How does NOT passing CIR help us ?
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
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mariusp
04-25 07:15 PM
Are you guys going to set up Web Fax to send support letters to our senators / congressmen? I mean how close are we to the point where this bill is up for debate?
Thanks. It has now been added on the homepage.
Thanks. It has now been added on the homepage.
cagedcactus
10-18 07:17 AM
WD, good idea...
bring all the material and pointers to kick off the meeting. We clearly see you as our technical leader. Formalities will be quick at the meeting so that we can recognize a few people as leaders, who can communicate with IV leaders and keep working on local plans...
People please share your experience, and thoughts about how you want to approach the local task....
confirm your place at the meeting....
we have 4 people posting here in thread... that wont do.... meetings are once in a while things... we need constant participation from others here on IV.... this place is the center point for us. If you are busy, mark down your cellphone calendar for a daily time when you can visit IV and michigan chapter thread to keep yourself and others updated....
bring all the material and pointers to kick off the meeting. We clearly see you as our technical leader. Formalities will be quick at the meeting so that we can recognize a few people as leaders, who can communicate with IV leaders and keep working on local plans...
People please share your experience, and thoughts about how you want to approach the local task....
confirm your place at the meeting....
we have 4 people posting here in thread... that wont do.... meetings are once in a while things... we need constant participation from others here on IV.... this place is the center point for us. If you are busy, mark down your cellphone calendar for a daily time when you can visit IV and michigan chapter thread to keep yourself and others updated....
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Canadian_Dream
03-21 01:41 PM
Desi,
Time and again I have noticed that you backed your suggestions with relevant documents. I for one, commend you for the work you do on this forum. I was almost thinking this case might set a precedent for dormant H1B, but apparently not. The other information that you provided on the other forum that was completely new to me was, when you pulled out the document regarding GC for the child of permanent resident born abroad.
Thank you for good work.
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
Time and again I have noticed that you backed your suggestions with relevant documents. I for one, commend you for the work you do on this forum. I was almost thinking this case might set a precedent for dormant H1B, but apparently not. The other information that you provided on the other forum that was completely new to me was, when you pulled out the document regarding GC for the child of permanent resident born abroad.
Thank you for good work.
There you go. Here is the link for the opinion letter
www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf
(http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/www.murthaimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/sheela_murthy.pdf)
Read it, Understand it and then please let me know if you still think that OP was in "unauthorized work", as this is what you have written before
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needhelp!
04-28 03:40 PM
Lets grab up these offers fast:
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espoir: $50 for every 10K
santb1975: $100 when we reach $37K
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gapala
03-20 10:19 PM
This is not visa portability as defined by AC-21.
Not same as, lets call it portability.
That is what I said. Its not portability.
Not same as, lets call it portability.
That is what I said. Its not portability.
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yabadaba
03-05 02:42 PM
needhelp...maybe instead of country of chargeability we should ask for grouping by country of birth; this is an actual field required in the I-485 form.
You are right about priority date. It is not a field available in the 485 form. in the 485 form we reference the approved I-140, which is the only place where your see the "Priority Date" field.
You are right about priority date. It is not a field available in the 485 form. in the 485 form we reference the approved I-140, which is the only place where your see the "Priority Date" field.
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risker
07-21 02:23 PM
Here I want to make clear, FIFO for taking labor applications and sending ad instructions not for approving. I know depending on compilcation of cases(I think), some cases with PD 2005 get approved fast and cases with PD 2003 are taking longer. I dont know why all these mess in DOL, for taking the labor applications and sending ad instructions.
No, I don't think it has anything to do with complication of cases. I know of the two different employees with the same employer with similar jobs/descriptions, one with PD 2005 approved and another with PD 2003 whose application hasn't even been taken for processing. So the behavior of the BEC just seems to be random and there seems to be no particular logic. Complication of the cases is definitely not one of the reasons as far as I know.
No, I don't think it has anything to do with complication of cases. I know of the two different employees with the same employer with similar jobs/descriptions, one with PD 2005 approved and another with PD 2003 whose application hasn't even been taken for processing. So the behavior of the BEC just seems to be random and there seems to be no particular logic. Complication of the cases is definitely not one of the reasons as far as I know.
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rdehar
07-20 04:43 PM
Even I have seen people at my client sites, filing 2-3 years after me get labors and I-140s, do a little 'I am going out to better job' dance and move on, while I have to turn down offers (with 30-40K salary increments !!)
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
But take heart my friend, "every dog has his day" :D
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H4_losing_hope
02-29 05:50 PM
I have sent in 3 letters and will be collecting 10 more letters before tomorrow
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This is really great, thank you for your extra efforts :D
Prijay
Attended Sep 18th Rally
This is really great, thank you for your extra efforts :D
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gsmishra
07-25 11:15 AM
great thanks
i told them that i am calling on behalf of the employer, i told my name as a legal dept guy from my company, (as instructed by my legal dept guy as they r too busy to call USCIS). then she asked benificiary name and date of birth.
she also asked me when it was mailed, i told it was mailed by our mailing dept in 1st week of july (actually it was send on 12th july) :)
she put me hold for a minute and gave me the number.
i told them that i am calling on behalf of the employer, i told my name as a legal dept guy from my company, (as instructed by my legal dept guy as they r too busy to call USCIS). then she asked benificiary name and date of birth.
she also asked me when it was mailed, i told it was mailed by our mailing dept in 1st week of july (actually it was send on 12th july) :)
she put me hold for a minute and gave me the number.
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needhelp!
02-12 06:02 PM
Check your total.. its time to reconsider and raise your bet :)
On that note, it's time this choked pipeline is cleaned up.
Every year, people are wasting more & more paper as they file, interfile, or renew applications;)
On that note, it's time this choked pipeline is cleaned up.
Every year, people are wasting more & more paper as they file, interfile, or renew applications;)
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pd_recapturing
02-09 09:52 PM
If you read my post carefully, I am suggesting this 'in addition' to what's already on IV's agenda. Why can't we work on this item in conjunction to what's already being worked on? I have started preparing a fraud list from a bunch of websites like desicrunch.com. I noticed that almost 90% of firms reported there are fraud firms and it makes me wonder about the efficiency of local authorities. Also I don't see how targeting blood sucking desi firms would feed the anti-immigrant trolls. I would think we Indians would benefit the most since it would increase our credibility in general. Thanks for considering this idea at least. I would like to know other people's thoughts based on my clarification here. This drive might clean up cases freeing up visa numbers for genuine EB cases from India. Why should I be in line with crooks ahead of me? It doesn't make sense whatsoever.
And yes, my contribution to IV so far as been $1000 and involvement in other drives. Your question to me regarding my contribution made me squirm a bit since you might have categorized me with many of IV's freeloaders. That's just like Americans asking me all the time "Are you on an H1-B visa and do you work for a bodyshopper". :)
But I will work on making new contributions as well.
Contribution so far: $1000
StuckinMuck, I really appreciate your concern but my question to you is are you targeting the desi fraud companies or fraud employees? How would one decide as to which companies/employees are fraud? Suppose, you target a company because its fraud but there might be a huge possibility that some of the employees are genuine and they would suffer just because their employer is fraud. How would you avoid that?
And yes, my contribution to IV so far as been $1000 and involvement in other drives. Your question to me regarding my contribution made me squirm a bit since you might have categorized me with many of IV's freeloaders. That's just like Americans asking me all the time "Are you on an H1-B visa and do you work for a bodyshopper". :)
But I will work on making new contributions as well.
Contribution so far: $1000
StuckinMuck, I really appreciate your concern but my question to you is are you targeting the desi fraud companies or fraud employees? How would one decide as to which companies/employees are fraud? Suppose, you target a company because its fraud but there might be a huge possibility that some of the employees are genuine and they would suffer just because their employer is fraud. How would you avoid that?
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venky08
06-13 07:37 PM
EXCELLENT NEWS!!!
I want to thank IV core for their fervor and zeal to press our issues via lobbying and media outlets that has in my opinion significantly contributed to this development...hats off to you...
I want to thank IV core for their fervor and zeal to press our issues via lobbying and media outlets that has in my opinion significantly contributed to this development...hats off to you...
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WeShallOvercome
09-27 12:49 PM
See this example to find how dates can move back after going forward in the last few months.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=164555#post164555
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=164555#post164555
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GCapplicant
07-21 09:07 AM
I understand your frustration ,When we had to wait for our labors approvals even we have gone through the same sleepless nights and mental frustration.
Why dont you seek IV's help...They are really supportive and this website is a real boon for us all.Today we are able to get updated information of what is going on.
Seek their help...I beleive IV willd defnitely help in this issue.
By suing I dont know how far its going to help as they have clearly mentioned Sep07 for all traditional cases.Seek help from IV.
Why dont you seek IV's help...They are really supportive and this website is a real boon for us all.Today we are able to get updated information of what is going on.
Seek their help...I beleive IV willd defnitely help in this issue.
By suing I dont know how far its going to help as they have clearly mentioned Sep07 for all traditional cases.Seek help from IV.
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sw33t
09-22 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by JisDeshMeinGangaBehthiHai
>I did not go to DC because i did not want to get the green card this way.I >grew upwatching aunts,uncles coming from USA bearing gifts.I grew up >watching cousins go for USA for higher studies.It used to be so special. >Now its become so cheap. Now you guys have literally taken it to the >streets. There's no difference between those illegal immigrants and us. This >H1visa has ruined it for really smart students who come here on F1 with full >scholarship.
>This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it >nothing more than a whore business.
>My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
I usually don't reply to threads which waste my precious hours during the most productive time of the day. I just couldn't help observe how retarded this person is. His handle talks great about his country. WTF is he doing here? And I assume he is on H1B. Is it fair to say he was raped by some company too? And what do you mean there is no difference between those illegal immigrants and us? Seriously, I just hope you are not retarded to a point that your stupidity is causing an aura of imbecility around you. Your heart ain't broken its just abnormal. By the way, the moment you start labeling people as smart and not so smart, you have underestimated something called "TALENT". No one promised that if you went to DC you are going to get your GC. Your real reason is that you are hiding under the excuses of your mind blaming the system, the people who use the system and the people who are used by the system. Do remember that you are part of the system and your actions, however futile they may get(which i doubt cuz you will be blaming the system for the next 20yrs), will still be governed by the system and not by your petty thoughts.
Good luck and I really hope I don't meet you in person lest the aura of ineptitude is infectious!
NOTE: And yes, I do apologize for the bitter reply which ironically doesn't compliment my handle.
>I did not go to DC because i did not want to get the green card this way.I >grew upwatching aunts,uncles coming from USA bearing gifts.I grew up >watching cousins go for USA for higher studies.It used to be so special. >Now its become so cheap. Now you guys have literally taken it to the >streets. There's no difference between those illegal immigrants and us. This >H1visa has ruined it for really smart students who come here on F1 with full >scholarship.
>This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it >nothing more than a whore business.
>My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
I usually don't reply to threads which waste my precious hours during the most productive time of the day. I just couldn't help observe how retarded this person is. His handle talks great about his country. WTF is he doing here? And I assume he is on H1B. Is it fair to say he was raped by some company too? And what do you mean there is no difference between those illegal immigrants and us? Seriously, I just hope you are not retarded to a point that your stupidity is causing an aura of imbecility around you. Your heart ain't broken its just abnormal. By the way, the moment you start labeling people as smart and not so smart, you have underestimated something called "TALENT". No one promised that if you went to DC you are going to get your GC. Your real reason is that you are hiding under the excuses of your mind blaming the system, the people who use the system and the people who are used by the system. Do remember that you are part of the system and your actions, however futile they may get(which i doubt cuz you will be blaming the system for the next 20yrs), will still be governed by the system and not by your petty thoughts.
Good luck and I really hope I don't meet you in person lest the aura of ineptitude is infectious!
NOTE: And yes, I do apologize for the bitter reply which ironically doesn't compliment my handle.
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mohican
01-02 12:50 AM
I have made similar post on another thread on IV--so this is a repeat:
The key is revocation vs. substitution. Per discussions with immi attorneys, AC21 portability is not explicit on what needs to be done if I140 is substituted by previous employer and NOT REVOKED, and the applicant is eligible for changing jobs (same desc and 180 days pending). The fact is that this loophole leads to illogical scenario--2 applicants taking benefit from same I140.
Question to you and other forum members: Is there a thread on this specific topic?
My situation:
I485 denied on Oct 24th 2008. I did not get the letter and realized only when I checked on the USCIS website. My attorney also did not get the letter of denial or even the NOID.
I changed jobs in June 2006 by invoking AC21 (Priority Date - Oct 2002, I140 and I485 filed concurrently, I140 approved in Feb 2005).
The fact is that on all forums there is talk about revocation by previous employer. However please note that approved I140 could either be revoked or substituted. While those AC21 memos talk about revoked I140, the law is not clear when previous employer substitutes the approved I140. I know the substitution process is no longer legal since June 2007, however, it has been abused in the past. My questions to forum members:
1. Is any one in similar situation?
2. I have H1B only until June 2009 and EAD unitil Sep 2009, Can I work until then (Jun or Sept) assuming MTR is resolved in 2 months (per some optimistic posts on IV). I am working on EAD.
3. If my employer were to file a new PERM labor application--can I port my previous priority date? How soon is PERM labor in EB2 category getting approved.
Mohican
The key is revocation vs. substitution. Per discussions with immi attorneys, AC21 portability is not explicit on what needs to be done if I140 is substituted by previous employer and NOT REVOKED, and the applicant is eligible for changing jobs (same desc and 180 days pending). The fact is that this loophole leads to illogical scenario--2 applicants taking benefit from same I140.
Question to you and other forum members: Is there a thread on this specific topic?
My situation:
I485 denied on Oct 24th 2008. I did not get the letter and realized only when I checked on the USCIS website. My attorney also did not get the letter of denial or even the NOID.
I changed jobs in June 2006 by invoking AC21 (Priority Date - Oct 2002, I140 and I485 filed concurrently, I140 approved in Feb 2005).
The fact is that on all forums there is talk about revocation by previous employer. However please note that approved I140 could either be revoked or substituted. While those AC21 memos talk about revoked I140, the law is not clear when previous employer substitutes the approved I140. I know the substitution process is no longer legal since June 2007, however, it has been abused in the past. My questions to forum members:
1. Is any one in similar situation?
2. I have H1B only until June 2009 and EAD unitil Sep 2009, Can I work until then (Jun or Sept) assuming MTR is resolved in 2 months (per some optimistic posts on IV). I am working on EAD.
3. If my employer were to file a new PERM labor application--can I port my previous priority date? How soon is PERM labor in EB2 category getting approved.
Mohican
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grupak
06-26 06:23 PM
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
-- The July 2007 visa bulletin reversal.
-- FBI name check
-- 2 yr EAD
These are all changes that happened because people brought it to the attention of lawmaker and administrators. Before I get complaints, I am not saying IV solely gets credit for it. Whatever the mechanism for change, it happened because the immigrant community worked together and fought to get relief.
We have to continue to work together, otherwise its status quo and be stuck in the mess.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
-- The July 2007 visa bulletin reversal.
-- FBI name check
-- 2 yr EAD
These are all changes that happened because people brought it to the attention of lawmaker and administrators. Before I get complaints, I am not saying IV solely gets credit for it. Whatever the mechanism for change, it happened because the immigrant community worked together and fought to get relief.
We have to continue to work together, otherwise its status quo and be stuck in the mess.
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Hermione
09-19 06:33 PM
Good post. Politics is a game of give and take. One thing legal immigrants should learn is not to distance themseves too much from the cause of illegals. If we support DREAM act, they will support SKIL bill. If we support admission bar repealed or 245(i), they will support higher numeric quotes and not counting of dependents. Think about it, our common goal is the same - to have a fair immigration system, where every desrving person has a chance to come to this country legally and with dignity.
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